The Muppet Babies in the Bathwater

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“Study the past if you would define the future.”

“Hi again, Steve!  The Muppet Show made it’s debut on Disney+ and people seem to have their backs up about there being a disclaimer placed in front of a few of the episodes, one example being Johnny Cash for the Confederate flag hanging in the background of one of his songs. What is your opinion on the racial stereotypes portrayed in the show? Should it be ignored because it’s a product of it’s time? Or should it be recognised for what it is and used as a learning tool for the future?  Would love to know your answer.” – Marni Hill

This is SUCH a hard topic to answer because the questions are so much bigger than the Muppets, especially in writing where it’s so easy for misinterpretation to happen. I can only say what is in my own heart and hope that the reader is willing to take intentions into account.

I tend to be someone who seeks to take responsibility for what I feel in a sort of “Gestalt” way, I suppose.  My feelings may be triggered by something or someone, but they are still my feelings.  They generated from within me.  I am aware that I felt them, and believe there is a reason as to why I felt them. 

Emotional feelings often manifest as ‘knee-jerk’ reactions, and I think that sometimes there is a tendency for what we feel to go unexamined, or blamed on others chalked up as they ‘made me feel’ a certain way.  But, I want to know why I felt the way I did, not that it is right or wrong (that’s a different issue), but as an exercise in knowing myself in a deeper way.  

I try to look at other people and their emotional reactions through the same general lens, not to judge them solely based on what they feel, but in the hope that in a spirit of reconciliation they will judge for themselves.  I like the idea of continuing to ask “why?” until one has reached the end of their ultimate capacity to answer.

It seems to me that if the feelings that cause us discomfort, anger, or pain, remain ‘knee-jerk’ reactions and we never look at why we were effected in the way we were, the reaction is more likely to control us.  I think that we are not able to be free of that control until we objectify a feeling or emotion, until we look at it as though it is outside of us, a separate ‘thing’ to be examined impartially.  We see it, rather than just feel it.

That is very often much easier to say than it is to do, and we often remain likely to just ‘react’.  But when we objectify a feeling I think that rather than it being who we are, it becomes a part of us we can step back and look at, and we can begin to see feelings as conscious choices.  I believe that can include being offended.

For me, ‘being offended’ is also a self-generated feeling tied to an emotional reaction to something.  As with any feelings – love, joy, happiness, sadness, depression – whatever – that emotion is the culmination of who I am and all that brought me to this moment, every experience that has contributed to why I feel the way I feel about what I see before me.

Because of that, I find that, theoretically at least, the connotation of symbolic things doesn’t have to inflame me (though like anyone else I have buttons that can get pushed, too!).  But again, theoretically, a flag or other symbol doesn’t have to continue to solely represent something negative and can then be used (as you put it) as a ‘learning tool’.  

Broadly, I fear that to purge the world of cultural symbols leaves a sterile view of what by present-day standards are some really horrible historical events and could actually rid the future of the evidence that can support change and allow growth.  And, it may also throw the ‘baby out with the bathwater’ to presume that everything a symbol represents is bad and unacceptable, and therefore should be banished from awareness for all time. 

In terms of “The Muppet Show”, I can assure everyone that Jim Henson was one of the most accepting, tolerant, integral thinkers who every graced our world.  He was a true progressive in the most positive of ways for his era and didn’t consciously have a racially or culturally biased bone in his body.  That goes for the team at that time, as well, including myself.  If there was ever a broad target in Muppet humor, it was perhaps “the establishment”, but even there differences were treated with humor to show the contrasts between perspectives.

To a degree, the Muppets have always been about creating abstract parodies from broad stereotypical archetypes.  In other words, we would sometimes interpret what we saw and heard of languages we did not speak from cultures with which we were less than familiar, and turn them into silly characters in the same way we did with our own American culture.  Sam Eagle, The Swedish Chef, and more recently, Pepe the Prawn, all come from what might be termed as ‘broad stereotypes’.  Even Oscar the Grouch is based on a cab driver who drove Caroll to the studio, but Caroll had no bias against New Yorkers or taxi drivers.

Miss Piggy is a female character portrayed by a man.   Mustn’t there a bias there?  Could someone make the case that this female character should be portrayed by a woman?  Sure.
But not only would that have netted a very different character, it didn’t seem to be an issue for Gloria Steinhem at the Sackler Center for Feminist Art when she awarded Miss Piggy for being an ‘extraordinary woman who is amongst the first in her field’.  We could even make the case that in the interest of not being speciesist Miss Piggy should only be a real pig and not portrayed by a human being…It’s possible to get angry about anything.

Ultimately, it’s ‘character development’, what every actor does if they are to create characters that we, as an audience, will connect with.  It is a part of the ‘irreverence’ that made the Muppets unique and beloved the world over.  And it is one of the things that is missing from them now to a large degree leaving them to have become rather benign stereotypes of their former selves.

Based upon what we might have called ‘foreign’ in 1976, and might embrace differently now, I think that if the ability to use real people and cultures as examples of what can be parodied is eliminated from the Muppet repertoire (and from the humor of our times, in general) it further adds to the homogenization of every one of the characters.

Ironically, caricaturing different cultures just as one does it to their own could be viewed as ‘inclusive’ in its own way. ‘We love you, too, you are a part of our world and thoughts, so as we celebrate you we poke fun at you, as well as ourselves’.  I also find it ironic that, if anything, using different cultures as archetypes for caricature might seem to point out the ignorance and limited understanding of those doing the parody rather than ridiculing the culture being featured.

We all come into this world at square one, and throughout our lives we remain at different stages of growth and development within ourselves.  I hope we, as a world community, are able to embrace our past without erasing it, allowing it to become the basis for evolutionary growth.  It seems counterproductive to rid the world of the reminders of how we have progressed if that cultural purge robs those who are still transcending an opportunity to grow.

At the end of the day, this seems to be about a corporation trying to continue to exploit their property and not piss people off.  I say that partially because I am not aware of anyone who experienced “The Muppet Show” throughout the years condemning it as racist humor.  

If the humor that gave the Muppets their connection to the world is deemed malignant, however unintentional, there is even less hope for their survival than previously thought.  As our world continues its long quest for social justice, I hope we don’t lose our since of empathy for why the past was the way it was as we realize that our own sense of forward thinking right now will not only become obsolete in fifty years, it is built upon all that came before.  We would not be in this present place of understanding without our less-than perfect past.

The short answer to your question is that we were amongst artists of the time who were expressing themselves through their work doing the best we could, with malcontent for the marginalized, and no malintent for any race, color, sexual orientation, culture, or creed.  I don’t think the content of “The Muppet Show” should be either ignored or censored regardless, but, for me, to recognize it as appropriate for its time so long as the positive and the negative are acknowledged seems reasonable.

There is no simple definitive answer to these issues.  For me, basic moral intuitions are best served with an integral approach.  Children today can be taught that a thing was ‘bad’ or ‘wrong’, just as they can be taught that it was timely, and my gut says that if you sit them down in front of “The Muppet Show” without those directions, they are more likely to smile than to frown. 

RE: Comment below from Saba M. Khan:

Comments

  • April 11, 2021
    Justin Piatt

    I tend to agree that intention is a major aspect of what makes something offensive or not. There’s never anything malicious about the Muppets humor. The problem that I see is in the people watching, those who see what’s being presented and use it as fuel to back up their own prejudices. They laugh at the joke in the wrong way, based on their own hate. I don’t know that that’s necessarily a problem with The Muppet Show, but characters like Apu from The Simpsons, where there was no intended malice from the show’s creators (he’s one of the smartest and most 3-dimensional characters on the show), and yet, people use that character to mock people from India. It’s a tricky subject, and I appreciate your trying to tackle it here.

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  • April 11, 2021
    Scott Joy

    I appreciate your thoughtful commentary, Steve.

    I’m delighted that (almost all of) the complete series of The Muppet Show is finally available on Disney+. I support the disclaimer on a few episodes, and I’m glad they are offered as created without excision.

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  • April 11, 2021
    Ben Essner

    Steve, thank you for providing such a nuanced perspective to a thorny issue. Far too many people nowadays have no appreciation for such nuance. They would rather give a knee-jerk response that they think will earn them brownie points with a certain segment of society but doesn’t leave room for productive or thoughtful discussion.

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  • April 11, 2021
    Marni

    Thanks for answering my question, Steve!

    It is such a touchy subject, putting into consideration the racial and social disputes happening over there in America in the past few years. I get Disney having to cover their asses just in case a bunch of parents have a whine about it, but those people are kind of missing the point. I grew up watching M*A*S*H with my parents and they were always quick to point out how the show, while brilliant, is a product of it’s time. I believe it’s important to have these shows available for consumption so the younger generations can learn about the standards of pop culture during that particular era. Considering The Muppets are still around today, there may be a time when social justice finally catches up to them. That would be both an interesting and sad day indeed.

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  • April 11, 2021
    Mary Arlene

    First of all, Steve, thank you as always for the thoughtful post. I’d a thousand times rather see an honest, nuanced opinion with which I don’t entirely agree than to see someone make a show of how forward-thinking and progressive they are without really meaning it.

    My field of study is literature, and part of the reason I chose it is because literature allows people to vicariously experience the lives of people who are different from them and gain new perspectives as a result. However, the problem has been that, until relatively recently, the works considered most worthy of study, the so-called “literary canon,” has consisted primarily of writers who were part of the white, male-dominated hegemony. In other words, there were a lot voices that weren’t being heard. It’s only within the last few decades that there has been any effort made to make the canon more inclusive. People may look down at the state universities where I attended college and grad school, but to the credit of the English departments at those institutions, they certainly made that effort. Perhaps they even swung a little too far in the other direction, but I’m confident things will find their equilibrium eventually, if they haven’t already.

    A college student or a grad student choosing to make literature one’s major field of study makes an adult decision to assume the risk that one will occasionally read something that offends one or makes one uncomfortable. It’s a different situation for K-12 kids who don’t have any choice but to go to school and read what the teacher assigns. Now, I’m not saying that kids should never be challenged, and adults do them a disservice when we assume that they aren’t capable of abstract thought or reasoning about complex topics. However, kids and adolescents are still developing emotional maturity and ethical competence. A complicated text can absolutely be a valuable tool in developing those vital skills. Nevertheless, a teacher who puts such a text in the hands of students should first reflect on whether he or she is challenging them constructively or inflicting pain unnecessarily, painting a target on the backs of the vulnerable students and handing weapons to their would-be oppressors. I think that’s a good question for all people who create or curate content to consider as well, even outside of an educational context.

    There are times when I think the potential to cause harm outweighs the value of a text or piece of content, and in those instances, I can see the justification in censoring the material, even if I disagree with the decision to do so. The problem with censorship is that once one starts removing or restricting things, even with the best of intentions, it’s hard to know when to stop. With all due respect to you and everyone who worked on ‘The Muppet Show,’ if I were tasked with taking out every sketch or bit that offended me in some way, there would probably be less than 5 episodes that remained fully intact.

    Generally speaking, I feel that adding to the content, e.g., providing historical perspective, is a more effective strategy than subtracting from it. Therefore, I agree with Disney’s decision to add to certain ‘Muppet Show’ episodes by putting disclaimers on them rather than subtracting from them by cutting content. Don’t get me wrong, though; I have no illusions about Disney’s true motivation behind the content warnings. I agree with you completely that it’s more a cynical corporate strategy to protect themselves from legal action than an expression of any genuine concern for cultural sensitivity and inclusivity. Nevertheless, it can’t really be called censorship because they haven’t cut anything for content that I am aware of. Censorship takes decision-making power out of the hands of the audience, while content warnings give them tools to make their own informed decisions. Granted, in this case the content warnings contain very little specific information, so they aren’t very effective tools, but they are still adding to rather than subtracting from.

    I’m really glad that you decided to engage in this sometimes difficult conversation. I hope that, through dialogue, we can all reach a deeper understanding of these important issues.

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  • April 12, 2021
    Anne Terri

    Hello Steve. Having lived in the states through much of my earlier years I need to share with you, that as for me who watched The Muppet Show from the very beginning, I never felt offended by anything presented on the show. i laughed often and found it hilarious. Yet now, in my later years, I’m more sensitive, but this is due to how the people are reacting to symbols, and are devouring everything, looking for an excuse to complain. I addressed this topic of bigotry and abuse on Mary Arlene’s latest blog, She also pointed out how some people feel Miss Piggy was abusive to Kermit. In stead of me seeing her as abusive, I also wondered if Kermit’s performer- Jim Henson, and later you, Steve-, ever went home bruised after making such episodes. This never occurred to me, until now, for even if the Puppet was getting the worst of it, the man or woman inside doing the performance was the one who received the attack. This is what I replied to Mary Arlene, on her blog: This helps me to rethink the Muppets style of humor on a whole new level. In my youth, which was long ago, many comedy shows I watched were filled with slapstick humor, and we accepted it, thinking it was funny. However on further analysis as an older adult, does this mean we blindly took for granted that to abuse another was OK? As with The Three Stooges, we would go onward in our adult lives to hit one another over the head? I suppose it is possible…… Steve, even after living in Belgium, I’m finding it’s much different there in how they think. I had to warn my significant other that it’s considered where I come from offensive to call a person of a dark skin color by a derogatory name. I will not write this here. You see, in this country it’s not offensive, as of yet. Are we ready for a World Federation? Not yet. I agree with your blog, and pretty much feel the way you do about this issue. Let it be known, that I was one of the first young women in Baltimore, to effectively integrate a group of my peers, of many colors, for learning to perform together, in the show competition arena. This was in the late 60s.

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  • April 12, 2021
    Donovan Gaffney

    Great take, Mr. Whitmire! In school, I study things like this. I study political science and ethnic studies and this situation is right up my alley. Furthermore, I would like to know how you and your wife met and what she means to you (:

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  • April 15, 2021
    Saba M. Khan

    Tragic, isn’t it? The lengths some big names will go trying to save face…when many of us are aware it’s all just a front, no real sincerity behind any of it. I mean, why make an issue when the ones they claim to vouch for haven’t complained about it themselves? (Self-appointed) advocates for inclusion/diversity, much, Disney? Mini-rant aside, I’m grateful that most of the material won’t be omitted, hopefully – and the warnings, even if they aren’t completely heartfelt in this whole façade, will be there as tools for discussion when we need them,…but ultimately, each of us is left to make his/her own judgment.

    While I continue to process multiple conflicting feelings in my mind, I’ll say that I concur with your point of ‘revisiting’ (, or should I say ‘preserving’?) examples of our past mistakes in order to make way for development. By scrubbing our earth clean of questionable symbols, proof of the wrongs that put them here in the first place, what would we as a society even be correcting, then? To give rise to misconceptions that the world has always been a pristine, blissful place would be unfair. Hence, however they might make us feel, it would be a sensible idea to keep such relics around,…so we don’t gloss over the reasons why they’re there – in other words, they can act as “guides” for ‘what NOT to do’ down the line. Speaking of feelings, it’s tough to have conversations about these matters, I admit, but I believe acknowledging that we need to do so and overcoming any underlying fears are two very crucial steps in our overall course of action…because if anything, this talk is far from done.

    As for “The Muppet Show” itself, I suppose I can see, somewhat, how/why certain sketches would cause uneasiness, but I know deep down that nothing ever came from a place of spite. NEVER ONCE have I believed that any of the Muppet Performers could have disdain for anyone, let alone people of other cultures – you, Jim, and the others were, are still, and will always be too pure and selfless for that. And with audiences in more than a hundred countries, pretty much across every continent having watched the series, it seems reasonable to say that they were more so captivated versus offended, seeing characters – frogs, bears, Whatnots, etc. that anyone, East or West, could relate to. It was that integration of new and unusual, “foreign” characters into the mix (alongside the old, familiar ones,) on top of the show’s own spontaneity, I think, that gave it its “uniqueness”, a peculiarity that still speaks to and has amazed millions universally…so obviously, the guys behind it all did something right. Plus, where intent is concerned, one wouldn’t be way off to think that Jim formulated the whole “Muppet Show” concept with the purpose of minimizing differences among people, if not completely resolving them,…after all, themes like peace and coexistence heavily reflect in another series (https://muppet.fandom.com/wiki/Fraggle_Rock) you both worked on,…right?

    Summing it up, thanks for sharing your perspectives and as always, letting us in to keep the talk going – much appreciated. Like you, I also hope that what I’ve said won’t be misconstrued or taken out of context in any way, given how sensitive the above matter is. Accordingly, I ask you and everyone to please trust that there is no ill will toward anyone from my end. May we all continue to respect, enlighten, and better understand each other. And may change equally come for the best.

    Oh, and…while we’re here Steve, I’ll leave this little throwback. Bittersweet as it kind of sounds now, I can’t lie, I’ve always liked your take on “The Whirling Dervish” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJVcfeyEyCU).

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  • April 18, 2021
    Jeremy Ward

    What I don’t get is that they put the warning on some shows like the Kenny Rogers episode because it had muppets that were supposed to be from Arabic counties, but it didn’t have a warning in front of the Arlo Guthrie episode which had muppets that were supposed to be like southerners and people from out in the country. I live in Georgia out in the country but I wasn’t offended I found it hilarious. I don’t see the difference though they were both in good fun.

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  • May 22, 2021
    Diego Fraga Gonzalez

    Hi Steve! I´ve heard you puppetered Scooter for Muppets From Space, it is true? and piggy for one scene..wich one? thank you very muchs from Spain!!

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