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How do you get rod puppets to hold or grab things?

‘I remember in the ABC series that Kermit was looking at cookies and then turned and grabbed a banana.  How do you get rod puppets to hold or grab things?’   – Jamie Higg

Thanks for this question, Jamie.  From a puppetry standpoint the answer is actually very simple, but not quite the whole truth.

For that series (and with all of my work as Kermit) one of my goals was to always be looking for ways to stretch what Kermit did while keeping him true to his origins.  A big part of that was to have Kermit be more organically ‘alive’ than might usually be possible.  This goes back to the early ’90s when I began pushing to eliminate having characters do ’puppety’ things like pop up from behind sofas on shows like “The Today Show” and “Good Morning America”.  From my perspective, when the Muppets were guests on shows, they should appear just as any other guest appears if at all possible.   For instance, Tom Cruise rarely popped up from behind sofas (although I recall him jumping up and down on one with Oprah once…).

As a part of my responsibilities, I made it common practice to extensively study scripts for places where Kermit (and any character I performed) could be made to appear more ‘alive’ by giving them ancillary actions to do during scenes and appearances that enhanced the illusion within the puppetry.  This is essentially no different than what any actor does in preparation for a scene as they look for how to play the dialogue they will deliver in a natural way that suits the mood and their surroundings.

In other words, rather than have Kermit just stand there and deliver lines, the practice is to think into his thought process and not only convey what he is saying, but where his mind is at at all times relative to the scene and the overall arc of the story.  Underneath what the audience is witnessing, is Kermit distracted by something, concentrating on a particular task or issue, etc.

But, with shooting schedules and budgets being what they are, I wanted to be cognoscente of avoiding trying to have Kermit do things that would have been either difficult to achieve quickly or would have added additional cost to the production.  By doing that I was able to put in little incidental actions of my own accord without having to have a meeting to get budget approval.  The Muppets” ABC series was a perfect place to explore these kinds of things since the premise (like it or not) was that this was his ‘real life’.

So, as the Muppet Workshop will attest, nearly every morning when a Kermit scene was up to shoot, I would throw some idea at them at the last minute, something that had generally not been anticipated or done before that Kermit would do as he went about delivering the dialogue as written.  The puppet handlers came to call it “The Whitmire Challenge”, and we collaborated eagerly on some 10 minute, throw-together rig that would do something cool.  I think from a creative standpoint, it had to be that way – unplanned and improvised based on the mood I was in as I was about to enter the scene as the character.  

Also, I was a real advocate of having a consistent puppeteer to be ‘Kermit’s other half’ as opposed to just having whoever was standing by be the right hand, which had been the standard in the past.  Achieving these types of effects quickly and efficiently is highly dependent upon having the right performer to assist, someone skilled and with whom chemistry has developed out of a natural empathetic connection to one another’s rhythms, pacing, and timing.  For me, that person had primarily become Mike Quinn. 

So, to answer your question using your specific example, we simply put a rod on the banana, and Mike manipulated both the banana and the hand that lifted it, which was less simple than just rodding the banana, but doable after a rehearsals, or two.  He followed my pacing so that we were in synch as to when he/Kermit would grab it.

On top of that, as you probably know, within the Muppet-style of television puppetry we are able to employ all sorts of technical tricks to enhance the puppetry.  Part 2 of that little effect is that the arm rods were removed in the edit making the grab and lift look about as organic as possible.

But you don’t really need an editor in post production to make something like this work.  It really boils down to the puppetry, and could even be done in a live puppet show and, theoretically, even by a single puppeteer.

Thanks for your question, Jamie!  This is a nice way to kick off our “Puppetry” category, and I hope all of you our there will continue to send your questions on this and any topic.

– S

Comments

  • October 4, 2020
    Anne Terri

    Well I’ll be darn. I always know Kermit was alive, and you proved it with each performance. Every puppet you perform is alive. He did a car commercial once with your assistance, and I swore he was doing all the speaking to the unseen one, beneath his feet, while holding the steering wheel. This gave me a great laugh, which I never forgot There’s so much more than we realize to keeping him and other puppets in our hearts. I miss so much your Rizzo, among others. Please do not tell Weldon. He’d have a fit if you were in his Cave. Thanks for answering Jamie’s questions. Your Loyal one, of the Troll Mob.

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  • October 15, 2020
    Angie

    Hi Steve can you tell us something about your puppeteering in The Witches … ? Thanks

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  • October 17, 2020
    Diego

    why wasn´t Bean more used in The Muppets? I would love to know the production dates of Muppets Tonight! thanks!

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  • October 20, 2020
    Jesse Oliver

    Steve

    There were a lot of Great Puppetry Effects on the Muppets’ ABC Series!

    I loved watching those scenes where we see Kermit doing subtle things like playing with a paper clip or flipping a coin and even Rizzo spitting out his drink!

    There was even a Great effect that you did on that show where Kermit would speak out the side of his mouth where you would only use your thumb to do that.

    I also loved seeing Rizzo driving a regular size car but he’s sitting on top a stack of books to drive!

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  • October 29, 2020
    Marni

    I can remember watching a clip of “The Jim Henson Hour” on YouTube where Jim, with Gonzo as his guinea pig, explains that picking up an object, in that case being a telephone, is/was done with a sneaky little cut to a slightly different angle so Gonzo’s hand rod could be attached to the phone between takes. It’s interesting to read about a different technique to accomplish the same thing. Honestly, I almost love the practical and artistry aspects of the Muppets more than I do thier antics.

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  • October 30, 2020
    Ethan Fishell

    Can you talk a little bit about the origins of Lips’s trumpet/moving finger mechanism?

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  • November 13, 2020
    Kevin Larkin

    Hi Steve! On the same subject : in some episodes of Fraggle Rock, Wembley appeared to have moving fingers that he picked up objects (most likely Doozer sticks… yum!) with. The mechanism in his hand to achieve this must have been tiny, and it’s something I’ve always wondered about. Likewise, the mechanism for his rolling eyes : I’ve been never been able to work out how that was achieved because the placement of Wembley’s eyes and his lack of eyelids must have made it almost impossible to conceal some of the workings.

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      • November 15, 2020
        Kevin Larkin

        Thanks for your reply, Steve. As you said, Wembley’s mechanical hand didn’t appear very often, and to be honest a casual viewer probably wouldn’t even notice it in use unless they were really looking for it. Wembley’s rolling eyes always looked really cool because there didn’t seem to be anywhere for the mechanism (unlike a character like Sweetums, who has a huge head and big eye-bags, eyelids, and bushy brows to hide some of the parts), but the face on that version of Wembley always looked a little fatter… now we know why!

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  • October 27, 2022
    Audrey

    This is awesome! I love Kermit (and Rizzo)! I miss Rizzo a lot. He’s my favorite character. I have a question for you: how do you get clothing to stay on the puppet?

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